A highly recruited S Ga scatback I know personally

[Shootist Comitatus]

is being courted to replace Zach Branch, ex-Dawg, current Falcon. He told me last week that he is shying away from UGA because of the reputation for over-reaching policing. Other schools tell him they have an understanding with their local police not to make major charges for minor law infringements.

This player, as is the case with about 90% of the current crops, smokes some dope, eats some gummies, and drives too fast.

Joshed & The Jury can address this tactfully and behind closed doors. Something needs to change. Recruiting is hurting.

That pain will lead to 3-4 loss seasons soon.

[DawgNatty]

I think you’re 100% correct in the first part.

Maybe what needs to change is driving too fast and smoking weed?

Is it too much to ask to NOT do those things for:

$100k-$1M+ pay
Opportunity
Fame
Education


I wasn’t and still are not allowed to do those with my job.

** edit to say there is 100% some over policing. But, this last one wasn’t even Athens was it?

[Shootist Comitatus]

I think you’re 100% correct in the first part. 

Maybe what needs to change is driving too fast and smoking weed?   

Is it too much to ask to NOT do those things for:

$100k-$1M+ pay
Opportunity
Fame
Education


I wasn’t and still are not allowed to do those with my job.

Impeccable logic, but just not realistic in 2026's context and mores (fixed morally binding customs of a particular group). More importantly, are you allowed to eat this:

[Top Row Dawg]

Nothing wrong with smoking weed. Took all my lifetime for law to catch up.

[ToccoaDog]

So, to have a good foosball team we have to pay them 100’s of thousands and hope they don’t transfer next year, allow them to smoke weed, give them a free 200k education, allow them attend class at their leisure or do ‘online’ classes, give them the best coaching-training-physiological therapy-psychology-nutrition-exposure, and allow them to endanger all of the innocent residents of Athens with their reckless driving while hoping they don’t kill someone? It was a good run

[ugafan49]

Georgia is not for errbody.

[McDonoughDawg]

So, to have a good foosball team we have to pay them 100’s of thousands and hope they don’t transfer next year, allow them to smoke weed, give them a free 200k education, allow them attend class at their leisure or do ‘online’ classes, give them the best coaching-training-physiological therapy-psychology-nutrition-exposure, and allow them to endanger all of the innocent residents of Athens with their reckless driving while hoping they don’t kill someone? It was a good run

Sounds about right

[JC-DAWG83]

So, to have a good foosball team we have to pay them 100’s of thousands and hope they don’t transfer next year, allow them to smoke weed, give them a free 200k education, allow them attend class at their leisure or do ‘online’ classes, give them the best coaching-training-physiological therapy-psychology-nutrition-exposure, and allow them to endanger all of the innocent residents of Athens with their reckless driving while hoping they don’t kill someone? It was a good run

The thugs are making it easy to not care much.

[DawgNatty]

So, to have a good foosball team we have to pay them 100’s of thousands and hope they don’t transfer next year, allow them to smoke weed, give them a free 200k education, allow them attend class at their leisure or do ‘online’ classes, give them the best coaching-training-physiological therapy-psychology-nutrition-exposure, and allow them to endanger all of the innocent residents of Athens with their reckless driving while hoping they don’t kill someone? It was a good run

The thugs are making it easy to not care much.

I'll say this to try and avoid the bigger conversation...It's hard to pull for any team where the players aren't as known or likeable.  Even free agency in pro sports has made "home teams" less relatable and harder to like.  We've got guys here (multiple over the last couple of years) that haven't played a down that are getting in trouble.  

The truth of the matter is UGA's guys aren't any worse than any other school...we have developed the reputation...and, every time one of these idiots does something stupid it's headline news.   Also, not to undersell...we are the school where some young folks recently died during some foolishness.

[JC-DAWG83]

So, to have a good foosball team we have to pay them 100’s of thousands and hope they don’t transfer next year, allow them to smoke weed, give them a free 200k education, allow them attend class at their leisure or do ‘online’ classes, give them the best coaching-training-physiological therapy-psychology-nutrition-exposure, and allow them to endanger all of the innocent residents of Athens with their reckless driving while hoping they don’t kill someone? It was a good run

The thugs are making it easy to not care much.

I'll say this to try and avoid the bigger conversation...It's hard to pull for any team where the players aren't as known or likeable.  Even free agency in pro sports has made "home teams" less relatable and harder to like.  We've got guys here (multiple over the last couple of years) that haven't played a down that are getting in trouble.  

The truth of the matter is UGA's guys aren't any worse than any other school...we have developed the reputation...and, every time one of these idiots does something stupid it's headline news.   Also, not to undersell...we are the school where some young folks recently died during some foolishness.

I can only speak for myself, but college football has turned into what I knew it was going to turn into when the NIL and transfer portal stuff started.  It is now nothing more than another pro sports league.  A league made up of a growing percentage of self absorbed thugs with no loyalty, commitment or concern about behavior to the school or society in general.  I am finding it harder and harder each year to feel much connection with the players.  Toccoa summed up what college football has become and I can't force myself to be overly concerned about what a bunch of thugs do on or off the field.  

Whether Georgia players are better, worse or the same than any other school really doesn't matter to me.  I despise the culture and behavior that fosters that behavior and simply because a thug is a gifted athlete isn't enough reason for me to overlook the behavior and be a passionate fan.  I would be fine with Kirby adopting a no tolerance policy and kicking any player arrested off of the team.  Winning football games because we are willing to overlook antisocial behavior, as long as it is committed by a talented athlete, is not a tradeoff I want to make.

Justifiably or not, UGA has developed a reputation as an outlaw football program.

[DawgNatty]

So, to have a good foosball team we have to pay them 100’s of thousands and hope they don’t transfer next year, allow them to smoke weed, give them a free 200k education, allow them attend class at their leisure or do ‘online’ classes, give them the best coaching-training-physiological therapy-psychology-nutrition-exposure, and allow them to endanger all of the innocent residents of Athens with their reckless driving while hoping they don’t kill someone? It was a good run

The thugs are making it easy to not care much.

I'll say this to try and avoid the bigger conversation...It's hard to pull for any team where the players aren't as known or likeable.  Even free agency in pro sports has made "home teams" less relatable and harder to like.  We've got guys here (multiple over the last couple of years) that haven't played a down that are getting in trouble.  

The truth of the matter is UGA's guys aren't any worse than any other school...we have developed the reputation...and, every time one of these idiots does something stupid it's headline news.   Also, not to undersell...we are the school where some young folks recently died during some foolishness.

I can only speak for myself, but college football has turned into what I knew it was going to turn into when the NIL and transfer portal stuff started.  It is now nothing more than another pro sports league.  A league made up of a growing percentage of self absorbed thugs with no loyalty, commitment or concern about behavior to the school or society in general.  I am finding it harder and harder each year to feel much connection with the players.  Toccoa summed up what college football has become and I can't force myself to be overly concerned about what a bunch of thugs do on or off the field.  

Whether Georgia players are better, worse or the same than any other school really doesn't matter to me.  I despise the culture and behavior that fosters that behavior and simply because a thug is a gifted athlete isn't enough reason for me to overlook the behavior and be a passionate fan.  I would be fine with Kirby adopting a no tolerance policy and kicking any player arrested off of the team.  Winning football games because we are willing to overlook antisocial behavior, as long as it is committed by a talented athlete, is not a tradeoff I want to make.

Justifiably or not, UGA has developed a reputation as an outlaw football program.

You’re correct on all counts.   I wasn’t disagreeing…simply saying this is the position we’ve put ourselves in.   

Pretty sure there are 20 programs that would hire the charlotte train killer if he ran a 4.3 and could win you 4/5 games by himself.

[JC-DAWG83]

So, to have a good foosball team we have to pay them 100’s of thousands and hope they don’t transfer next year, allow them to smoke weed, give them a free 200k education, allow them attend class at their leisure or do ‘online’ classes, give them the best coaching-training-physiological therapy-psychology-nutrition-exposure, and allow them to endanger all of the innocent residents of Athens with their reckless driving while hoping they don’t kill someone? It was a good run

The thugs are making it easy to not care much.

I'll say this to try and avoid the bigger conversation...It's hard to pull for any team where the players aren't as known or likeable.  Even free agency in pro sports has made "home teams" less relatable and harder to like.  We've got guys here (multiple over the last couple of years) that haven't played a down that are getting in trouble.  

The truth of the matter is UGA's guys aren't any worse than any other school...we have developed the reputation...and, every time one of these idiots does something stupid it's headline news.   Also, not to undersell...we are the school where some young folks recently died during some foolishness.

I can only speak for myself, but college football has turned into what I knew it was going to turn into when the NIL and transfer portal stuff started.  It is now nothing more than another pro sports league.  A league made up of a growing percentage of self absorbed thugs with no loyalty, commitment or concern about behavior to the school or society in general.  I am finding it harder and harder each year to feel much connection with the players.  Toccoa summed up what college football has become and I can't force myself to be overly concerned about what a bunch of thugs do on or off the field.  

Whether Georgia players are better, worse or the same than any other school really doesn't matter to me.  I despise the culture and behavior that fosters that behavior and simply because a thug is a gifted athlete isn't enough reason for me to overlook the behavior and be a passionate fan.  I would be fine with Kirby adopting a no tolerance policy and kicking any player arrested off of the team.  Winning football games because we are willing to overlook antisocial behavior, as long as it is committed by a talented athlete, is not a tradeoff I want to make.

Justifiably or not, UGA has developed a reputation as an outlaw football program.

You’re correct on all counts.   I wasn’t disagreeing…simply saying this is the position we’ve put ourselves in.   

Pretty sure there are 20 programs that would hire the charlotte train killer if he ran a 4.3 and could win you 4/5 games by himself.

Maybe every team is in that position, I don't know.  I do know we seem to be leading the pack on thug behavior and, generally, where there is smoke, there is fire.